Game Theory: FNAF, Return To The Pit (3 New FNAF Theories)
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Welcome back to MatPat has too many FNAF theories, that he needs to put multiple in an episode! Today we are going to cover 3 more short Five Nights At Freddy's theories, focusing mainly on the new books. From more information on the ever important Cassidy, to William Afton's time travel shenanigans, there is a LOT to cover! Let's dive into this time traveling ball pit, shall we?

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12:53 - Theory #3

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  • TheDayDreamingAuthor

    Hey MatPat, I recently started reading Fnaf's very first novel 'The Silver Eyes' and I caught something interesting in the very beginning that might help you with the whole '1985, first Freddy's place' theory. I direct you to page 3 of 'The Silver Eyes' At the end, there's a text: "What did you expect, that the whole place would be unchanged? A monument to the moment of your departure, frozen forever in July 1985?" Those were Charlie's thoughts after talking about Micheal's death (which could be the crying child in the book). In the same book, page 7, Charlie enters her room and talks about her fathers inventions for her. The first was (quote) 'a purple rabbit, now gray with age from years of sitting in the sunlight. Her father had named him Theodore. He was the size of a three year old child-her size at the time- and he had plush fur, shining eyes and a dapper red bow tie. He didn't do much, only waved a hand, tilted his head to the side, and said in her father's voice, "I love you, Charlie." But it was enough to give her a night watcher, someone to keep her company when she could not sleep. (quote) To me, it sounds similar to how the crying child had Golden Freddy Plush. At the same time, it reminds me of the Bonnie hand in Sister Location in place of Funtime Freddy's hand. A small purple rabbit, He didn't do much, only waved a hand. But it could also be the plush on the chair in FNAF 4 because this rabbit sat on a wicker chair. Here are a few things I've noticed from watching your theories multiple times, pages 8 and 9. Ella the doll is introduced to us. (quote) 'Out sailed Ella on her track, a child-size doll bearing a teacup and a saucer in her tiny hands like an offering.(quote). In page 12, Charlie mentions something that had happened as she sat with her father as he works (quote) In a darkened corner behind her father, barely visible, hung a jumble of metal limbs, a twisted skeleton with burning silver eyes. Every once in a while, it gave an uncanny twitch. [...] The limbs, contorted, seemed almost mocking, the thing a ghastly jester, and yet there was something about it that suggested enormous pain. [...] She pointed at the metal skeleton. Does it hurt? She wanted to ask the question, but when she looked into her father's eyes she found she could not. (quote) And in page 13, a small sentence that reminds me of the camera's watching FNAF 4 house. (quote) A camera tripod of some sort? It was the first unfamiliar thing she'd seen. (quote) Those are some things I've noticed in the span of 30 minutes reading. Back to the 1985 place and the mall looking build in the Security Breach trailer and from what we've seen in the teaser image. I direct you to page 36, where starting from the final paragraph all the way to page 39, there are hints of a bigger location that used to be put on re-build. Quote one: Some parts of the MALL had been almost finished, while others were in shambles. Quote two: others were lined with glass-paneled storefronts, lights hanging in perfect rows above their heads. Quote three: "Why would an abandoned building need a guard?" Charlie wondered. Quote four: "No something isn't right about the architecture." (Jessica) took several steps back, trying to see the whole of it. "Something is definitely not right," She repeated. "It's bigger on the outside." [...] "But there's something in the middle!" Jessica exclaimed. [...] "This part juts out into the parking lot like the stores on each side, but there's no way into it." And at the end, it is questioned from Jessica to Charlie "And"- Jessica dropped her voice so that only Charlie could hear her- "about the same size as Freddy's, don't you think?" Quote five: The light was out in the hall again, bobbing up and down, and it was coming closer. (quote) After they see the light, Charlie and her friends hide and watch as the bobbing light came closer and the night guard pass them in page 41. Reminds me of the way we hide in the Security Breach trailer from the guard. Lastly, starting in page 44, Charlie and her friends find an old Freddy's place hidden in the mall itself. This is some things I've noticed when reading the first 2 chapters. And the mall they speak of reminds me a lot of Security Breach. The date 1985 plays a role as well. You said that we suspect Security Breach is the earlier location before FNAF 2 and that it takes place in 1985. I don't know if this will help you, but I'm putting this comment here in case it does. I also don't know if you'll read this, but if you do, again, I hope it helps. Thank you for reading. Edit: I'm still reading the book, currently on Chapter 5. Found out that the animatronic Charlie saw in the corner was foxy. Though, it's interesting. At the beginning we read Charlie getting attacked by Foxy and she got slashed at the arm on Chapter 4. And Foxy is a big thing seeing as he ties in with Foxy bro, Micheal. Edit 2: On page 137, the diner is mentioned as the first restaurant Charlie's father made. Don't know if this is big, but it's something that stood out to me because of the fnaf messy timeline. Edit 3: Page 160, a yellow-ish brown bunny is mentioned staring at Charlie and her brother. Isn't that the same yellow bunny in 'Into the Pit'? Edit 4: It's said that, in page 161, after her brother dies (quote) Charlie's mother left a little while after that. Charlie did not remember her saying good-bye, although she knew her mother must have. Her mother would not have left without saying a good-bye. Similar to how, after their kid died, William's wife left through their grief. Ballora's song fits to that as well. And a few lines after that, it is mentioned that (quote) It was the day he (Charlie's father) began to build her a mechanical toy, a little dog who titled its head from side to side.(quote) Reminds me of 'Fetch', the dog that was mentioned in the story. After the flashback, we know that Charlie's brother, Sammy, was taken by a yellow rabbit. Micheal disappeared after John (Charlie's friend) saw a yellow bear. Now, the yellow bear could possibly be the bear that bit the crying child in FNAF 4 or Golden Freddy himself. Not sure yet. But the yellow bunny is related to the deaths of 1985 that's been mentioned in 'Into The Pit'. Edit 5: SPRING LOCKS MENTIONED IN PAGE 165! (quote) "I mean it," he (Charlie's father) said. "This is a spring lock, and I want you to know how it works because it's very dangerous, and I don't want you touching these. This is why we never put our hands in the animal costumes; it's very easy to trigger these if you don't know what you're doing, and you could get hurt." (quote) Seems very close to Henry and William. Henry knows the spring locks better. William probably didn't and when he put himself in a spring lock suit, he got really hurt. The water dripping may have made it worse. Edit 6: Does 'Dave' ring a bell from anywhere? It's the name of the guard in the book that catches them in page 171. Page 191 (quote) Dave reached out with his fingertips, savoring the moment, and brushed yellow fur. ...Motherf- so idk if this confirms a name for the yellow rabbit. But it's there for you. Update:Nevermind, that damn Dave was William. Edit 7: A thought came to me as I am reading. The yellow rabbit, is it Spring Trap before he was broken? Is the yellow rabbit suit the same one William hid in from the dead children before getting spring locked? Dave in the story is the yellow rabbit, possibly the one who started the murders. William only gets into the suit after the deaths. Does it signify that William killed before and after the suit or was there someone else before him using that suit that was just thrown around? At the same time, I have a theory. Is Charlie going to use the spring lock she found before on Dave in the yellow bunny? Could it possibly be that spring lock that snaps at William? A spring lock could possibly had been snapped twice. Maybe there was someone before William wearing that bunny suit. Update:Again, after reading the whole book. I realized that Dave was William himself. Also, as I'm writing this, I remember the way Micheal (Charlie's brother) was taken by the yellow bunny and how everyone saw the murders that day. Reminds me of 'Into The Pit' again, the deaths seem very close. 1985 is most likely canon from there. There was a yellow bunny murderer. The question is, was it always William Afton? I'll keep reading and see what happens. But if you'd rather re-read the book yourself, Mat, then go ahead, there could be some details you've put off and never mentioned so I can't tell if they're worth mentioning or not, like Stanley the Unicorn for example. Edit 8: 1979-1982. The dates Charlie and John are looking for in regard to Freddy's Diner. So the location between it and FNAF 2 would have taken place in between 1982 and 1985. 2 or 3 years. Read more and it's found out that Sammy, Charlie's brother, was snatched in November 1982. So the first Freddy's place must have opened after the grief and also been shut down after the events of 1985. But after the first time, why would you make another Freddy's place? It seems strange how, after losing a son, Charlie's father makes another Freddy's place and in it, dies Micheal along with other kids by the yellow rabbit in 1985. He kills himself after, but why build the new place after the first murder? Just something that seemed odd to me.

    • MANUEL X
      MANUEL X

      Not bad

  • A cat eating a cactus
    A cat eating a cactus

    Oh frick I’m still on the cliffs I’d better friggin click away because I’ve gotten too invested in this series

  • anouk botha
    anouk botha


  • Nicholas Bridoks
    Nicholas Bridoks

    Why does glamrock freddy have a chest cavity?

  • Raheel Shayaan
    Raheel Shayaan

    The time travelling theory is a literal parallel of predestination

  • Quetz

    11:33 geist in German means ghost so it's technically dream ghost thought that would be fun to know

  • Juicy


  • IdontGrief

    I made a comment that said " william: *thinks hes safe* Water droplet: I'm about to end this man's whole career just on a diff acc

  • Unspeakable Meow
    Unspeakable Meow

    While watching this I got his big change ad

  • Peyton Henry
    Peyton Henry

    Mat, the other picture that you didn't mention with the security cameras was from the graphic novel of The Twisted Ones. I have the Silver Eyes graphic novel too if you find any other pictures that you don't seem to recognize

  • LazyPotato_Eli

    Here’s my theory: Cassidy ISNT the vengeful spirt. The picture of the vengeful spirt has short hair. Cassidy has described as curly black hair (I think, but if not, it’s still not short). Also, the vengeful spirt seems to know about the nightmares, I’m pretty sure that only C.C knows about them. Also, the spirt is described by the nightmares as “he”.

  • literally hax
    literally hax

    remember when fnaf was about haunted robots and not about time-travelling avengers and a maniac who is literally immortal?

  • Laura Dunn
    Laura Dunn

    Wait till Mat sees the Gacha life lore.

  • Carter Crannell
    Carter Crannell

    I know this is sort of late, but I have a little theory for what could be inside the box… what if it’s the heads from the end of FNAF 3, it looks sort of cluttered, and why would it be so dark, only something that dark would have some sort of very inclosed space.

  • Dianne Sharp
    Dianne Sharp

    He better release it fast or some 1 might

  • Lunar

    im bout to end dis mans whole career

  • Joyce Rodríguez
    Joyce Rodríguez

    I haven't played any fnaf game in my life, but I do have watched every game theory. I haven't BC I'm too scared of jumpscares.

  • Jith Gaming
    Jith Gaming

    Sad Afton noise

  • Catqueen

    If this theory is true then blackberry Freddy could be the detective going back through time?


    bro mattpat you may not beleive me but right when i clicked on the video i got an add and you were in that ad so i was going to watch your videos and i got one of your ads

  • Luka Brinkmann
    Luka Brinkmann

    12.51 it could've been oswalds blood from the time the golden bonnie got a small bite of oswald when trying to rescue his dad. Highly unlikely since it wasn't a big bite but still something to keep an eye on

  • Jacob Rendon
    Jacob Rendon

    New fnaf theory coming soon????

  • Gacha Gamer123
    Gacha Gamer123

    0:20 yes end it

  • Gage Park
    Gage Park

    I just realized a fnaf roadblock... endo. in fnaf 1 can look at the camera, which proves he is "alive" and in fnaf 2 he can MOVE. weird right??

  • Linuxrunslow

    We ignoring the slither boss similarity with the slithering in the walls of the golden freddy story?

  • AFK 123
    AFK 123

    william afton died because he did not subscribe to matpat now subscribe or suffer

  • Emmanuel Barte
    Emmanuel Barte

    From an interesting horror murder game to a super power horror game......

  • Josey Strife
    Josey Strife

    If were dealing with body snatchers why haven't you considered the possibility that the reason Golden Freddy Crying Child says it's me is because Michael might be a rebuilt version of the Crying Child kinda like how Charlotte and Baby are technically supposed to be the same person just an younger and older version of each other

  • Dana Korba
    Dana Korba

    Idk why but I HATE cassidy’s face its just so creepyyy

  • Hghjrf

    Maybe every soul is in the box

  • Katriina kass
    Katriina kass

    When i saa the "I won the lottery!" I saa mat saying "thats great" what movie was that ?where can i wacht

  • Sam's Everything Channel
    Sam's Everything Channel

    In the survival logbook page 39 it shows micheals pen drawing a gravestone and the light text saying MY name so I think micheal is the text

  • Ethan Major
    Ethan Major

    You know it’s been so long I forgot why we were trying to figure out about this game what is the end goal for all of this what do we want to know

  • Tea Droplets
    Tea Droplets

    this this went to chaos

  • Sleeper25

    Could you please do a theory on who is Freddy. We all know it’s Gabriel but who is Gabriel? Is he found in the log book? I’m aware it is on the grave stones but is it connected to the books? It’s the same with Chica. Susie is only on the gravestones I don’t think it’s anywhere else. So what proof is there. I’m not trying to be mean I’m just asking for a theory about this.

  • sharjil24

    What’s the background music called at 2:20 I need to know!!

  • md titu
    md titu

    I was watching this and someone yelled outside... i scared

  • Commenter


  • An average fnf player
    An average fnf player

    I’m about to insist man whole career

  • youngability

    back to the future be like:

  • 1905060540 Haricharan Movva
    1905060540 Haricharan Movva

    Michael definitely has to be in fnaf three due to the father it’s me Michael

  • Snoorlacks

    14:07 I like that little ‘Community’ reference there with the “darkest timeline” and Scott wearing the Goatee lmao

  • Eliza Swart
    Eliza Swart

    Matpat in 2018:In to the Pit doesn't make sense. Matt in 2021:It makes soooo much sense cuz when u talk about Golden Freddy,Everything is possible!

  • Darksay83

    The rain drop: I’m about to do what’s called a pro gamer move

  • Angermations

    The virus was burned out of Larson by the Stitchwraith in The Cliffs's epilouge.

  • vibes gholo
    vibes gholo

    5:36 correction no his name is cassidy not the "one you should not have killed" its his brother that after the events of the bite of '83 vanished out of existans and turned into remnant

  • vibes gholo
    vibes gholo

    @5:03 ye mike likes to play chicken with death

  • vibes gholo
    vibes gholo

    Bro remnant is the left overs of dead souls we get it

  • FiveNightsBear

    Here is a theory: *Why was Balloon Boy made?*

  • Sweet Life Alley
    Sweet Life Alley I solved fnaf 1-4

  • Banananater

    Fury’s rage is now officially Scott’s last self made game. WOW.

  • Callie from undercat!
    Callie from undercat!


    • Callie from undercat!
      Callie from undercat!


    • Callie from undercat!
      Callie from undercat!

      I’m going to do it again! #mattdad!

  • Una Mackin
    Una Mackin


  • Wolfhard

    I was typing “fnaf game theory” on my phone and accidentally clicked on fnaf gacha life. Oh god...

  • salty sailor
    salty sailor

    Why does the Gumdrop angel look so much like Pinkie Pie?

  • •Lxvly •
    •Lxvly •

    If fnaf has a happy ending Im done with everything

  • Cursed Wither
    Cursed Wither

    ye but what if larson realizes that he cant interfere with a thing in the past? the loop stops, or it starts...

  • Cookielove Fnaf
    Cookielove Fnaf


  • Izaiah Hively
    Izaiah Hively

    Funny part about the fire the golden Freddy in the ball pit thumbnail joke is that it actually happened

  • TaelovesGucci

    but wait u said mike afton was the crying child. didn"t u?

  • snail man
    snail man

    love intro!!!!!!

  • April Klein
    April Klein

    Wait a min….. if you look at the chest from fanf 4 it has 18 bolts and spring-trap has 18 teeth: Do you think means anything?

  • George Tserovski
    George Tserovski

    2:20 4th of May is also my birthday

  • mewtwo's wrath
    mewtwo's wrath

    #Theory 2 William's wife cheated on him with this CO worker Henry And his wife gave birth to Crying child

  • mewtwo's wrath
    mewtwo's wrath

    #Theory 1 Golden is the wife that was Unalived by William with Spring locked in the suit and before her son passed away she loved the sun possessed the suit with her But turns out William kidnapped them at birth Later raising him as his child After seeing his stepsister be eaten by baby he started to tell his father and his father said who tell anyone and I'll make sure he'll never be seen by anyone ever again Then the Crying child shuts up And that's why hes always scared about the animatronics

  • Σοφια Χρυσανθακοπουλου
    Σοφια Χρυσανθακοπουλου


  • I exist
    I exist

    The story from your last theory reminds me of the crying child’s imaginary friend they are both toys and talk to people and in sister location you even see Fred bear holding a wallow talkie

  • Avery Stout
    Avery Stout

    Happy to see Scott still jumping the sharks

  • Ellen Greenacre
    Ellen Greenacre

    That community reference 😂

  • Pinkanade

    When Jake picks out a happy memory and makes it "bigger/brighter", he's emphasizing Larson's happiest day to ease his pain. That is literally what we do when we recreate the birthday party to soothe the spirits and give them peace in the games.

  • Aidan Bell
    Aidan Bell

    pls tell what happens to charlie

  • devil's gamer daughter
    devil's gamer daughter

    Well matpat i think i found something in golden freddy lore remember his jump scare a still image then exits you from the game it like hes the only one can do it right ? Wrong theres someone else who has a similar jump scare and thats nightmare but hes bring you to the home screen but i started questioning it like why do they bring you out the games and is there something they hiding and it pop in my head they dont what you to know whats going on and they might be one in the same remember what scott said about mind of a child maybe they are real but they ate really scare and nightmare is golden freddy or something are related to them and nightmare is in the thank you and he or maybe she was in the book why unless nightmare was real and maybe they are body jumping from the animatronics

  • Kaden Trenkler
    Kaden Trenkler


  • The gaming secret
    The gaming secret

    Gumdrop angel is terrifying then in the flesh and do and episode on Wii deleted you

  • Vincent Burlingame
    Vincent Burlingame

    Hi so I didn't know which video to comment this in but the phone guy in one of the games talking about the frontal lobe being gone and a person surviving might be one of the bite victims is still alive somewhere in the world of FNAF, more then likely the one bit by foxy(I think)

  • Silver Clare Music
    Silver Clare Music

    Into the pit

  • Find my main channel
    Find my main channel

    3:30 Sergio how about you DONT listen to the creepy doll child and not cut off your face you know you’d think that’s just common sense, just saying

  • Find my main channel
    Find my main channel

    I forgot about the main books after I started reading into the pit lol

  • Le Monke
    Le Monke

    I don't like cassidy's picture 😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥

  • Woody bros 4578
    Woody bros 4578

    William:hahahahahaha water: :) this fun

  • Kiki O.o
    Kiki O.o

    I already have a theory for security breach so we see in the trailer that all the animatronics get tooken over by vanny, so that gave me the thought. What if glitchtrap made the glamrocks? Maybe he did it as a bait so vanny could control them. Since Gregory was close to Glamrock freddy. But then how would he have cameras on his watch? Well, since all the other glamrocks got tooken over before Glamrock freddy, maybe he knew that he was next, as him and glamrock chika has similar personality traits? So he got gregory the stuff he needed to survive, lateron getting tooken over by Vanny. We know that glitchtrap cant hypnotise people, so what if he controlled vanny, and his power were transfered to her body in a way? Thats why there there eyes are red like Vanny's. Not purple like Glitchtrap's? but idk, i aint scott :/

  • Kai Flynn
    Kai Flynn

    in the trailor for the new fnaf game it shows a child that strongly resembles the crying child, so (theres not much evadance to prove this) i think we'll play as them.

  • No

    When’s the next theory gonna be about me?

  • TheGamingTriceratops 2011
    TheGamingTriceratops 2011

    How come you haven’t done a theory on that the puppet is still alive and here brother living in the shadows at each pizzeria which is why the animatronics are attacking mike to protect a child which they do in silver eyes too which also means puppet was saved by here brother and here brother Sammy spent so much time with the animatronics that he is keeping him a child and letting him age every thirty years

  • Clever Name
    Clever Name

    I just realized something while watching Mark's Sister Location videos again. On night 2 of that game, Baby said that there was someone before you who turned the desk into a hiding place, and specifically called out that it was a man. Has anybody come up with any kind of explanation as to who that other person was?

  • apprxves

    Went I saw this video I saw a ad that your feature in it. Ironic

  • lunar wolf
    lunar wolf

    Just a random question what do you think of Michael x Ennard and William x Henry.

  • RioluGaming 50
    RioluGaming 50

    Did I just get a Matpat ad before watching this

  • europe in the mall
    europe in the mall

    Afton has quite something for death. Don't they all meet a fate like that.

  • Gloria Veley
    Gloria Veley

    Me when I just watch game theory🤭

  • Springles 777
    Springles 777

    You know what's werid? Hearing Mattpat saying my last name over and over again. (aka Larson)

  • Daniel Kirby
    Daniel Kirby

    I just got an ad for big change


    This is my second time getting a ad with matpat in it while watching matpat

    • YEET MAN
      YEET MAN


  • Mike Dubo
    Mike Dubo

    14:28 Okay, then who, or what, was that Pit Bonnie from the first book?

  • Miguel Henriques
    Miguel Henriques

    The bad ending mask only has one light. MatPat overstretching again

  • A GachaWolf
    A GachaWolf

    I got an ad that had you in it while watching this video-

  • Some Random Vide0s
    Some Random Vide0s

    I got one of your ads before watching the video

  • Lachlan Paterson
    Lachlan Paterson

    Make a full time line

  • Whovian

    MattPat I have 2 questions about the glitch trap in fnaf 2 theory, if he’s shadow bonnie, then what is is Shadow Freddy? And do they have importance to the story? Here’s what I think they are, so Golden Freddy was thought of to be one soul, but recently been theorized to be 2 souls. What if Shadow Freddy was the second soul that came to the golden suit during the fnaf 1 events? I mean we do see both Golden Freddy and Shadow Freddy separately in fnaf 2, maybe you can put this into a theory.

  • Aron Aron
    Aron Aron

    ''I'M SHOVING THEORIES IN THERE!!!'' -please don't take that out of context